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BigS1975
post Oct 4 2011, 07:24 PM
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Saturday we took a ride up to Shreveport,La.I met a guy there from N.C. and made a trade.Traded my race car for a street car.This thing is nice but some changes need to be made.Its an 84 Z28,T-top,backhalved with a 4 link.Putting my big block in it from the racecar.Pics are a little fuzzy but I will get better ones posted soon.All I need is a set of headlight buckets for it.






I'm looking for a stock dash for it also.I dont really like the aluminum dash in it.It has power windows,all new badges,and some nice custom door panels.
So if anyone has a stock dash,and headlight buckets let me know.
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post Oct 4 2011, 07:33 PM
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I'm digging it, I don't think very many members like pro street so I thought id be the first. Is this Going to be street driven? What BBC combo are you running?
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post Oct 4 2011, 10:43 PM
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I have a spare old dash if you need one. I think there is a small crack in it somewhere but you can have the whole thing. You must pick up, though, I cannot drive or walk now.

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post Oct 4 2011, 11:18 PM
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Bad news....Unless you have a "connection", a BBC 3rd gen will never pass State Inspection legally by the book. Might find an Inspector who doesn't pay attention though. Just thought I'd tell ya so that you don't spend your $ on just another race car.


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post Oct 5 2011, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(2fast4love @ Oct 4 2011, 07:33 PM) *
I'm digging it, I don't think very many members like pro street so I thought id be the first. Is this Going to be street driven? What BBC combo are you running?

Its a 468 with Brodix cnc ported heads,solid roller cam,It ran 9.90's in my 3000# car on motor.I'm putting a 200 shot plate kit on it.And yes it will be street drivin. oohyea.gif

Lou- I'll get with ya on the dash.Where you located and I can come get it.Is it black by chance?

Stephen- Good news.We dont have emissions testing in Bastrop.And lets just say stickers are no problem for me. wink.gif
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post Oct 5 2011, 09:06 AM
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I am in Far North Austin and you can come by anytime to pick it up, I am home 24/7, lying in bed (yeah, I know, slacker smile.gif ). PM me for details and we can talk.
Oh and yes, the dash is black, it might even have some Z28 markings, can't remember.
Actually, I found my link with the parts, looky here: http://magicman.iglu.cz/84Z28/Parts/ smile.gif
The dash is in there, along with other parts that you might want/need. I will give them away almost for free since I am trying to get rid of them, btw.

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post Oct 5 2011, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(BigS1975 @ Oct 5 2011, 06:07 AM) *
Stephen- Good news.We dont have emissions testing in Bastrop.And lets just say stickers are no problem for me. wink.gif

Emissions have nothing to with a BBC as far as the State Inspection goes. Inspection & Emissions testing are actually 2 different things, they just happen to emission test in some counties at Inspection time. Even without Emission testing, it wouldn't pass. But if your set, go for it! smile.gif


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post Oct 5 2011, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Stephen @ Oct 5 2011, 09:07 AM) *
Emissions have nothing to with a BBC as far as the State Inspection goes. Inspection & Emissions testing are actually 2 different things, they just happen to emission test in some counties at Inspection time. Even without Emission testing, it wouldn't pass. But if your set, go for it! smile.gif

I'm an inspector so I know the laws.And it will pass with flying colors if the right equipment is on it.
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post Oct 5 2011, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Stephen @ Oct 5 2011, 09:07 AM) *
Even without Emission testing, it wouldn't pass.



QUOTE(BigS1975 @ Oct 5 2011, 10:34 AM) *
I'm an inspector so I know the laws.And it will pass with flying colors if the right equipment is on it.


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post Oct 5 2011, 01:19 PM
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You guys are incredibly funny. I was NOT OWNED StevenK. He may be an Inspector, but that does not mean he knows the State Inspection laws correctly. He obviously doesn't (or chooses to ignore them). My late Wife was the Supervisor for the department at DPS that regulated all the state inspection stations, so I know a thing or 2 about the Inspection laws. I still know people down there & was actually there just the other day talking to them about Inspection stuff. No. A BBC will not LEGALLY pass. It may "pass", but that doesn't mean it did LEGALLY.

StevenK...Why did you feel compelled to post a slam against me, when you are WRONG? Why did you feel the need to to turn this thread into something it shouldn't have? Even BigS1975 admitted "And lets just say stickers are no problem for me. wink.gif" He is obviously saying he will "pass" it himself or has a friend that will "pass" it. Lets see him to it to a random station without a friend there to do it who recognizes a Big Block....It won't pass.


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post Oct 5 2011, 01:23 PM
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post Oct 5 2011, 01:25 PM
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Awesome! I hate trailer queens haha, what trans are you running? I assume it's pump gas, anything done to the front suspension?
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post Oct 5 2011, 01:57 PM
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what is it exactly about a big block that wont pass? If it has all of the emission requirements then it should pass correct? If I am reading this right http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/inspection...;classsubmit=Go

You can go to each item requirement to find out what they are looking for, so then, it will need to have the stuff listed and since it doesnt need a sniff test it should pass with all the right equipment right?


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post Oct 5 2011, 02:14 PM
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I'm not trying to own anyone.Stephen maybe right and I maybe right.I dont ignore the laws.I've been doing stickers since I was 18 and I'm 36 now.So yes I do know the laws.It doesnt matter what motor is in a vehicle as long as the required emission components are on the vehicle it will pass.
I'm really not worried about it honestly.This car will not be drivin daily and not for long trips.IMHO the discussion is over about the inspection sticker issue before someone else syas that I owned someone or or some other remark to insinuate that I know more than the next man.I'm not that kind of person.Now back on topic.
Going by Lou's this weekend to see what all I can pick up from him.New cam and lifters are on the way.The motor mounts and pads came in today.I'm just going to get it running and driving then start collecting the front suspension and Kmember stuff.
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post Oct 5 2011, 02:24 PM
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Actually I just did some research and I think I'll do this.
WHAT ARE ANTIQUE AND CUSTOM BUILT VEHICLES?•In Texas, an antique vehicle is defined as any motor vehicle that has at least a twenty-five year old body, frame and motor.
•The State defines a custom-built/assembled vehicle as any motor vehicle that has been reconstructed using three basic parts (body, frame, motor) and does not look like a known brand. Assembled vehicles are registered with the make as "assembled." The model year will be determined by the year of the body used to build the vehicle. A ‘Replica' is an assembled vehicle that uses manufactured prefabricated body and resembles a known brand.

No sticker needed now. wink.gif
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post Oct 5 2011, 03:09 PM
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OK Just try to drive down the road without an Inspection sticker in your car & see how far you get before you get pulled over for no sticker. You will & you'll get cited. Sticker required. The only way you can get around that is like in a Parade or Charity Cruise. Even in those it is a 1-way exemption from point A to point B, can't drive back to point A to get on a trailer. The trailer has to meet you at point B. And what/where/how you can drive such a car is limited, although nobody tracks that & it will be up to the Officers discretion like if you get pulled over going to work.from work/just running around town, as to whether or not he believes you are just test driving it after a repair. Besides, I saw nothing in what you posted about no Inspection required.

Antiques are also mile limited, even though nobody is watching for it. There is always a chance that someone will notice.

No 3rd gen ever came from the factory with a Big Block, so the chassis is not certified to have one. Now, you could retrofit a later engine into an older chassis & you can apply for exemption/special permit/whatever it is called, to get it to pass.

The State Inspectors inspect for Safety items, the Emissions test is for air quality & the engine issue is a Federal requirement item, not a State item. Much like the Window Tint issue I'm working on to fight the D.O.T. over. Despite the State saying I can & the Exemption I have from the State saying I can, there is a D.O.T. issue that says otherwise & is preventing me from doing what I have since Oct. of 1992. Apparently for the last 19yrs, I have been "breaking the law", yet nobody ever cared. In the last 3 years, they have gotten stricter on Tint issues & are now enforcing the law. Police pulling people over, Inspection stations not passing cars. Why? I dunno, but they are. This issue is why I was down at DPS headquarters last week talking to the DPS Program Specialist, Regulatory Services Division person & it has been discussed with the DPS Office of General Counsel. Finding my State Representative is my next step.


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post Oct 5 2011, 04:01 PM
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I thought replacing an engine with a newer one or bigger one only had issues in California. I still have not come across anything that makes it illegal in Texas. If you know if a link that would be great.


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post Oct 5 2011, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(2fast4love @ Oct 5 2011, 01:25 PM) *
Awesome! I hate trailer queens haha, what trans are you running? I assume it's pump gas, anything done to the front suspension?

Actually its a 13.8:1 motor.I'm changing cams with a little more overlap to take some of the pressure out of it.I also have a pretty good hookup on race gas.Like I said this car will be drivin very little on the street.Nothing has been done to the front end yet.I'm looking at QA1 coulover struts,a tubular kmember and a rack setup.
I'm building up a th400 for it.I use to run a glide behind this motor and it liked it.Only thing different is another gear and lower gear ratios in the trans.I'll run the bb for a while untill I can get a big small block built for it on pump gas.
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I thought replacing an engine with a newer one or bigger one only had issues in California. I still have not come across anything that makes it illegal in Texas. If you know if a link that would be great.

There is a retrofit issue, like LS1/LS2/LS3s into 3rd gens, which is fully legal as long as you retain the emissions along with it. But big blocks are like putting carbs on a FI 3rd gen. Can't be done. Basically since big blocks came in Truck chassis & did not come in the Passenger Car chassis, that ios what prevents it from being done so legally.

I'll look & see if I can find a link for you. I made a quick search earlier but it wasn't obvious & I didn't dig deep because I am working on the DPS vs DOT issue & having to deal with my State Congressman on it.


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post Oct 5 2011, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(KOS @ Oct 5 2011, 04:01 PM) *
I thought replacing an engine with a newer one or bigger one only had issues in California. I still have not come across anything that makes it illegal in Texas. If you know if a link that would be great.

There is nothing illegal about it in Texas.There is nothing in the state inspection class or rule book that says to look for chassis certs or what size engine came in what.If the vehicle is registered as an antique which is 25 years old it does not require an inspection sticker and that ticket can be faught and won.I know personally of a few that have.It doesnt matter if its a 3rd gen camaro,1st gen S10 with a v8 or what.I've read up on the laws for antique registration and know the lilmitations of it.Its my deal if I get caught.Besides I was just being sarcastic when I posted that to get a laugh out of someone.Oh well.Didnt work.But theres ways around just about anything.Okay back on topic again.
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