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Travis
post Jan 12 2006, 09:36 AM
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Ok...i have those weldin subframe connectors i got from yancy....i keep getting told that you have to remove the carpet to weld them in or you can start a fire.....wouldnt the easiest thing be to just soak the carpet with water where you are welding.
Why couldnt this work....


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post Jan 12 2006, 09:38 AM
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Dude, it takes all of 10 minutes to lift the carpet, why not just do it right?


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post Jan 12 2006, 10:01 AM
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because a cup of water take 10 seconds.....and i didnt know the carpet was that easy...ive never had to do it...if its that easy then its no biggie....but will my idea of water work....


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post Jan 12 2006, 10:15 AM
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The water will evaporate from the carpet easily.

Dude, I was welding in my SFC's with the carpet out and still started fire inside the car ... with bare metal. The paint caught on fire, then some speaker wires.

Please remove your seats and carpet. Please do. I do NOT want to see your car burned to a crisp.

If you need help, bring the car over to Steven's on Sunday, we can do it there if you want.

But please don't weld with the carpet in. Please.

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post Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM
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i think well already be pretty busy at stevens cause i think we were already planning on doing a few things to my car also....but if yall want to do the subframes im down with that...check with steven though....


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post Jan 12 2006, 10:47 AM
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I have no clue how long subframes take to install....I would bet at least a couple hours.

Lou and Yancy both are leaving in the early afternoon.


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post Jan 12 2006, 10:55 AM
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I'm leaving at around 6 or so. Once we yank Travis' carpet, he can start welding and we'll work on Steven's car meanwhile. I don't have a problem with that.

It'll be a big "fix all" event. :biggrin:


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post Jan 12 2006, 10:58 AM
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The heat for the welding will dry the carpet and then catch it on fire anyway. only advantage is that the fire will spread slowley until it gets past the water and then burn your car to the ground. Plus once the fire starts your carpet is trash and has to be replace anyway.


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post Jan 12 2006, 11:03 AM
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Do you have to completely remove the carpet or just peal it back?  Cause removing the entire carpet is alot harder, have to pull the seats, and center console

I didnt even think about this, I really should get SFC before I put the carpet in.....crap.


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post Jan 12 2006, 11:05 AM
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The SFC weld points are nowhere near the door, they are almost under the seats. And you can't peal the carpet there without pulling the seats.

Lemme try to find a picture.

In Edit: No picture, sorry. But I checked and yes, you'll be welding under the seats, not by the door. So the seats have to come out. The carpet can be peeled back over the center console, that one doesn't necessarity have to come out. The seats come out in a matter of minutes.


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post Mar 22 2006, 04:40 PM
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Better safe than sorry.  I wouldn't even consider welding in somebody's SFC's with their carpet still in place.  I don't mind doing the welding, got my own MIG, but not with the carpet still in, and an extinguisher handy!  Like Lou said, paint, wires, etc....


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:15 PM
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I have them in my car and they arent welded in there


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:18 PM
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I'm guessing yours are bolted in them?  Even on bolt in ones, I'd suggest welding them, after bolting them in place.


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:20 PM
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I'm good. Maybe when ever I get around to swapping the interior.


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:25 PM
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Then you need to get settled in, and that garage cleared out.  Get to it, man!


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:28 PM
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starting on that saturday.


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:30 PM
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I know, you got moving day coming up...Good Luck man...And congrats on the house!


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post Mar 22 2006, 05:36 PM
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post Mar 22 2006, 09:58 PM
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Yancy just welded mine in this last weekend (thanks yancy  :bow: ), and I would definitly say to get the carpet away from the metal.

On that note, Travis, what SFCs do you want, and where do I have them shipped?


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post Mar 22 2006, 11:15 PM
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hmmm...a few questions first..what is the main difference other than welding and bolts for bolt in and weld in sfc....what would happen if i got the bolt in ones and then later welded them on...


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